well, hello, hi my english is really bad, and i don't care. tinySVGturtle is a work in progress. once it completed it will be LGPL or GPL or something likt this, now it's not. because the code is really buggy right now. tinySVGturtle is written in SVG, javascript, php and html. with the love of two boring days. and its's written for Firefox 1.5 Beta 1 the language is kinda based on http://clpp.sourceforge.net/, (the application-code is is not based on the logo++ code, never looked at the code. whatever.) how to make the turtle do things: walk $n walk 100 - the turtle walks vor 100px and draws a line jump $n jump 100 - the turtle walks vor 100px but he, no line turn $n turn 45 - the turtle turns for 45° degress clockwise repeat $n .... loop repeat 4 walk 120 turn 90 loop - the turtle walks 120px turn 90° for 4 times, so making a square define $string .... end define square repeat 4 walk 120 turn 90 loop end - defines a square draw $string draw square - draws the square which we previously defined point point - makes a small red point new new - cleans the board and and sets the tiny turtle to the start position nothing nothing - makes, tada, nothing alert $word alert ich_bin_ein_glückliches_pferd - an alert-box apears which shows "ICH_BIN_EIN_GLÜCKLICHES_PFERD" for other examples look at the gallery of the logo++ sourceforge page. http://clpp.sourceforge.net/gallery.html well, and if you make some cool pictures, email me the code. i will post it here. that's about it for now. mfg bauchidgw -@t- gmail ° com